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		<title>By: Seeking health information online: does Wikipedia matter? &#171; ScienceRoll</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eye on DNA Links - May 16, 2007 &#8212; Eye on DNA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eye on DNA Links - May 16, 2007 &#8212; Eye on DNA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 08:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidgerard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davidgerard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 05:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;From my observations, Wikipedians with a long history inside have a much better chance of having their edits kept than anonymous or new Wikipedia contributors.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Well, uh, yeah. That&#039;s why account names exist. Editors accumulate reputation within the project. That&#039;s a feature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>From my observations, Wikipedians with a long history inside have a much better chance of having their edits kept than anonymous or new Wikipedia contributors.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Well, uh, yeah. That&#8217;s why account names exist. Editors accumulate reputation within the project. That&#8217;s a feature.</p>
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		<title>By: ncurse</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ncurse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 18:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re absolutely right. Wikipedia works (in my opinion) like natural selection. In most of the cases, the more edits an article gets, the better it will be. And the mass is the keypoint here. We need much much more people to at least try to ensure that the articles represent the most commonly held consensus view.

And I still don&#039;t say that Wikipedia is a perfect resource, I just say that it&#039;s improving in the right way and it&#039;s still under construction. 

Look, if you show an encyclopaedia of better quality, from tomorrow, I&#039;m going to spend my time and energy to improve that one. 

Anyway, thanks for dropping by. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right. Wikipedia works (in my opinion) like natural selection. In most of the cases, the more edits an article gets, the better it will be. And the mass is the keypoint here. We need much much more people to at least try to ensure that the articles represent the most commonly held consensus view.</p>
<p>And I still don&#8217;t say that Wikipedia is a perfect resource, I just say that it&#8217;s improving in the right way and it&#8217;s still under construction. </p>
<p>Look, if you show an encyclopaedia of better quality, from tomorrow, I&#8217;m going to spend my time and energy to improve that one. </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for dropping by. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Gunn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Gunn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 18:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s one of the problems I have observed with Wikipedia, and since you provided such a thoughtful critique of the above criticisms, I though I&#039;d solicit your views on this.

Essentially, the question is this: How do you know an article represents the most commonly held consensus view, unless it is allows to rapid and continuous editing?

Everybody knows that the more popular an article is, the more edits it gets, and the closer the article comes to resemble the state of common knowledge.  However, this means that it&#039;s problem of kinetics - there&#039;s a balance of rightness and wrongness in every article, and in order for the article to most closely resemble the state of common knowledge, edits have to be rapid, continuous, and from a large number of individuals so that the equilibrium is established.

So for the majority of the infrequently edited articles, and also for the articles that are defended against changes, how do you know it represents consensus?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one of the problems I have observed with Wikipedia, and since you provided such a thoughtful critique of the above criticisms, I though I&#8217;d solicit your views on this.</p>
<p>Essentially, the question is this: How do you know an article represents the most commonly held consensus view, unless it is allows to rapid and continuous editing?</p>
<p>Everybody knows that the more popular an article is, the more edits it gets, and the closer the article comes to resemble the state of common knowledge.  However, this means that it&#8217;s problem of kinetics &#8211; there&#8217;s a balance of rightness and wrongness in every article, and in order for the article to most closely resemble the state of common knowledge, edits have to be rapid, continuous, and from a large number of individuals so that the equilibrium is established.</p>
<p>So for the majority of the infrequently edited articles, and also for the articles that are defended against changes, how do you know it represents consensus?</p>
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		<title>By: cottontimer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cottontimer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 11:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. I didn&#039;t know you were so involved in Wikipedia, Berci! 

In response to your points:

@ proper references - You sure that&#039;s what&#039;s being included in Wikipedia entries? I&#039;m not convinced. Quantity does not equal quality.

@ time and energy to fight for my edits - As I&#039;ve said elsewhere, if I were convinced that Wikipedia should be the authoritative resource of the world, I would put in more effort. As it is, I think my time is better spent elsewhere. And I suspect that much of the back and forth that goes on in the edit history of the entries are pretty futile.

@ self-promotion - I&#039;m sure some, or many, cases are clear cut but I still think there are many sites with valuable information that are being excluded simply because they are not &quot;official agencies.&quot; From my observations, Wikipedians with a long history inside have a much better chance of having their edits kept than anonymous or new Wikipedia contributors.

@ Wikipedia being a one stop source - I&#039;m not saying that Wikipedia isn&#039;t a truly amazing accomplishment. I&#039;m only trying to remind people that just because Wikipedia turns up in the top 5 search results for many terms doesn&#039;t mean it should be their last stop resource. First stop, ok. But definitely not last stop.

As for flame war, nobody&#039;s flaming here. I&#039;ve still got my flame-proof suit on, although I think Thomas has got it a lot worse over at Epidemix.org. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I didn&#8217;t know you were so involved in Wikipedia, Berci! </p>
<p>In response to your points:</p>
<p>@ proper references &#8211; You sure that&#8217;s what&#8217;s being included in Wikipedia entries? I&#8217;m not convinced. Quantity does not equal quality.</p>
<p>@ time and energy to fight for my edits &#8211; As I&#8217;ve said elsewhere, if I were convinced that Wikipedia should be the authoritative resource of the world, I would put in more effort. As it is, I think my time is better spent elsewhere. And I suspect that much of the back and forth that goes on in the edit history of the entries are pretty futile.</p>
<p>@ self-promotion &#8211; I&#8217;m sure some, or many, cases are clear cut but I still think there are many sites with valuable information that are being excluded simply because they are not &#8220;official agencies.&#8221; From my observations, Wikipedians with a long history inside have a much better chance of having their edits kept than anonymous or new Wikipedia contributors.</p>
<p>@ Wikipedia being a one stop source &#8211; I&#8217;m not saying that Wikipedia isn&#8217;t a truly amazing accomplishment. I&#8217;m only trying to remind people that just because Wikipedia turns up in the top 5 search results for many terms doesn&#8217;t mean it should be their last stop resource. First stop, ok. But definitely not last stop.</p>
<p>As for flame war, nobody&#8217;s flaming here. I&#8217;ve still got my flame-proof suit on, although I think Thomas has got it a lot worse over at Epidemix.org. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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